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Brand: T-Mobile Branded
Category: Wireless

List Price: $499.99
Buy New: $176.35
You Save: $323.64 (65%)


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Avg. Customer Rating: 3.5 out of 5 stars 43 reviews
Sales Rank: 404

Color: Blue
Media: Wireless Phone
Shipping Weight (lbs): 1.7
Dimensions (in): 0 x 0 x 0

Model: Wing
UPC: 610214614360
EAN: 0610214614360
ASIN: B000QTWT7W

Release Date: May 15, 2007
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1 out of 5 stars Windows 6 is too slow on this device   March 19, 2008
 4 out of 5 found this review helpful

This device doesn't have enough resource to run Windows Pocket 6.0 properly.

You end up restarting your phone like 10 times a day. If you have more than 100 contacts and receiving 25 or more email a day then this device is not for you. Exchange sync keeps failing most of the times, and almost every time you run 2 applications at the same time phone fails and requires restart.

The device itself is kind of heavy but it has a good design. I like the color. It has a poor battery life.

I switched to Blackberry 8820, and I am pretty happy now.



3 out of 5 stars T-Mobile slow data and Phone memory leave lots to be desired   March 10, 2008
Phone starts off handicapped, in that the installed paltry memory is split between program and storage memory and quite inadequate. What this means is you likely will have trouble managing memory as your familiarity and use grows. You'll find the thing just about freezing up, as it natively cannot recover enough RAM to run. There are some hacks to improve this, but they are unauthorized, and you best know what you are doing or you'll own a brick.

T-Mobile is average on voice connectivity, but this is typically variable where by you live. I find the signal level fluctuates a lot, just sitting in my office or class. Have always been able to use the phone though, so more academic at this point. Be sure to call them after 90 days, as T-Mobile will unlock the phone for you. Finish the contract and you can resell it if you wish.
Data is like going back to dial-up. I feel my hair turn grey waiting for the thing. T-Mobile (and ATT) EDGE Data speed fluctuatins are so great, even standing still, webpage downloads also can freeze while waiting for the wind to change direction (of whatever causes the signal to degrade) so you can finish. Google maps in the car mostly work, but there are occasionally dead zones that tick me off.

This unit does have wi-fi, so if you can connect to this, it's as fast as a PC, but battery drains somewhat quicker.The keyboard is great, and a major reaon for buying. I hate the "chicklet" keyboard many phones sport.
I type a lot.
Bluetooth has paired with everything I've tried, I think it's ok. The Voice command is mediocre, any significant backgd noise (radio, road noise) makes it a trial to use. I'm 50-50, takes two/three times to get it to dial correctly in the car. This is no bluetooth though. In quiet places it is good, but who can control that?

While the processor is slower, I find the tradeoff in battery life to be well worth it. It's in the "fast enough" category. I can go almost two days w/o a recharge, so very happy with this.

I use SPB Finance (like quicken) and Memmaker to give me back memory and to clear the RAM so I only reboot maybe a couple times a week.
Also use handymenu, handy launcher and taptext (google them). All are useful tools. Finally, SPB Mobile Shell will really add functionaility, I ues my fingers a lot and this makes it much easier.
HandySwitcher is the "alt-tab" of mobile phones! Must have, as WM only minimize apps and it is otherwise fustrating copying a phone number from a website to the phone to dial a number. HandySwitcher allows you to quickly switch between apps or kill unneeded app easily to recover memory.

Microsoft traditionally takes three tries to get it right. This means windows mobile 6 is really mediocre, considering it's version 6 and they've had twhice the number of chances and it's still more like a toy than a professional mobile tool. Too bad Psion pretty much got killed. Microsoft still has a way to go in terms of mobile usability and memory management. It reminds me of Windows 85, in that it too stank at memory management.
But the above addon tools make it much more usable.

Ifyou are only using your phone for just contact management, calendar and of course phone, consider a blackberry. My killer app was a "quicken" type program since my beloved Psion 3c died. SPB Finance makes many of the shortcomings worthwhile and SPB Mobile Shell seems to really make the UI usable.
Despite the bashing and real need for improvement, I do find it a useful tool and use it every day. It's really handy to have everything in pone place and as I get better with the clumsy OS, I find I depend on it more and more.



2 out of 5 stars Great promise -- failed delivery.   February 18, 2008
I was really excited to buy this phone, but after 5 months of frustration in trying to get it to work with my Dot Mac account, I am exchanging it for a Curve. I spent 45 minutes at the store a month ago with a T-Mobile representative who valiantly tried to make it work. Yesterday I spent 2 hours on the phone with yet another T-Mobile representative who went to great lengths to try and make it work with my Dot Mac. Sure, I could try to use this with another e-mail provider, but this is how I have everything wired to go with my business. Am I to rework everything in order to fit this phone's idiosyncracies?

On top of that, I am frustrated by the "constant contact" offered by the phone's many pop up windows, which require me to press OK or click on the OK to get rid of them. Fine... no big deal... except when I'm using hands free Bluetooth through my car. Then I have to pull the phone out of my purse and -- while driving -- get rid of those annoying windows while driving. Don't I have a Bluetooth-enabled phone to circumvent the risks associated with staring at my phone to make a call?

Finally, I am frustrated with the phone intermittently getting confused as I'm making a phone call and doing things I don't expect through the touchscreen. For example, there have been times when I'm on a call and then I disconnect a call because I my face or ear pressed something on the screen. (Um... duh... hello HTC! How about programming the touch screen to turn off once I'm on a call?) Other times, I've gone through an entire phone call but then noticed that my ear was playing Bubble Breaker while I was on the phone call. No harm, no foul? Well, not on those busy days when I get many calls and it's been a day since I last charged the phone. Unnecessary Bubble Breaker games while I'm on the phone just drain the battery and leave me at risk of running out of batteries when I least need that to happen.

So... goodbye Windows Mobile 6 "Smart Phone". I'm going back to Blackberry.



3 out of 5 stars Read this before you start using your wing!   February 15, 2008
 2 out of 3 found this review helpful

First, let me say anyone buying this phone from Amazon.com is very lucky. I wish I had known I could buy it from them for half the price that I paid for it. With that being said...

The biggest problem with this phone is the memory. No, a storage card will not fix the problem. I have a 4GB, which is nice for storage, but the problem is with the program memory. A way to help this problem, that I was not told by T-Mobile customer service is go into your internet options and save your history for 0 days. It will save your history everytime you go to the internet which uses up all your memory. It has really helped since I did this.

You also need to do a soft reboot everday or every couple of days. This is not a big problem. It only takes a second and does not erase anything so it is not that big of a deal.

One major problem I had was the touch screen went out within a month of owning my phone. My phone was locked and there was no way to make a phone call if the phone was locked and the touch screen does not work. It was 1:30 am and a stranger was sitting outside my house at a time that my town has a serial rapist alert going on. I had no way to call 911. When I finally found an old phone, charged it, put in my sim card and called tmobile customer service, they said their computers go down at night and I needed to call back the next day. The next day they told me they would replace my phone, but it would take 5 days. I went out and bought the dash so I wouldn't have to worry about the screen freezing. I still own the wing because it was past the 14 days, but I have the dash as a back up. Turns out there was a sexual assault two streets away 1 hour later that same night. That is a problem they need to address!

Another problem is trying to type a text message and drive. Yes, I know you should not, but for those that do. It is very hard to balance the phone, type and drive. So if you text message a lot you might want to consider that or try it a lot before your fourteen days are up.

The good: Easy to use. Doesn't take a lot of reading the manual to figure out how to use the phone. I love the fact it accepts a 4GB microSD card. The dash will only work with 2GB.

Microsoft Office is wonderful. You can only view with the Dash.

I can use Mapquest to find phone numbers and locations of businesses without calling information. Has saved me lots of time and money. I love using Internet Explorer!!!

Nice look.

Good phone quality.

Battery life is not bad.



5 out of 5 stars Nice phone, when you tweak it right.   February 13, 2008
 2 out of 3 found this review helpful

Out of the box this phone has some problems, but these can be fixed. Foremost, there is not enough free memory to run programs. With the default t-mobile ROM, there is about 8MB of free program memory after a clean start. After some use this can dip as low as 2MB with no programs running! This means that windows mobile has a HUGE footprint of around 40MB on this phone! After some digging, I found some custom ROMs and I would highly recommend flashing your phone with one of these. For example, the one that I use (OpenTouch V3.0) has a MUCH smaller footprint of about 29MB, leaving around 20MB free for running programs. This is plenty and I never have "out of memory" errors anymore

The second common complaint is the processor speed. I haven't found this to be much of a problem, but if you need to run intensive apps like skype, you can overclock using BatteryStatus. Some people have had luck getting it up to 273Mhz, I keep it at around 240Mhz. You can even use CPU scaling to automatically adjust the speed depending on CPU usage.

There are also plenty of addons and 3rd party programs that will make this phone rival the iphone. After the above tweaks, the only complaint I have is that this phone won't be compatible with t-mobile's UMTS network when it becomes available.

In summary, I really don't know what t-mobile was thinking shipping this phone in such a crippled state. But after some modifications, this phone is REALLY nice. I enjoy it much more than my previous blackberry pearl.

Pros: long battery life, nice form factor, runs windows mobile 6, touch screen, easy access microSD slot.

Cons: A little on the heavy side, needs some tweaking to be usable, not UMTS compatible.


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