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| Quicken 2005 Deluxe [Old Version] | ![Quicken 2005 Deluxe [Old Version]](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41HE6M2WJ8L._SL160_.jpg)
enlarge | From: Intuit Category: Software
List Price: $59.95 Buy New: $19.99 You Save: $39.96 (67%)
New (2) Used (5) from $19.99
Avg. Customer Rating: 113 reviews Sales Rank: 2525
Format: Cd-rom Platforms: Windows 98, Windows 2000, Windows Me, Windows Xp Media: CD-ROM Edition: Deluxe Autographed: No Memorabilia: No Shipping Weight (lbs): 2 Dimensions (in): 7.7 x 5.3 x 1.4
MPN: ITICD00919WI Model: 283645 UPC: 028287009196 EAN: 0028287009196 ASIN: B00029J1SG
Release Date: July 30, 2004 Availability: Usually ships in 1-2 business days Condition: Brand new in retail box. The outer box shows minor signs of distress. Expedited shipping recommended for faster delivery.
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Terrible Untested Software September 25, 2004 69 out of 71 found this review helpful
I have been a user of Quicken and CheckFree for bill payment for over ten years. I received a "mandatory upgrade" of Quicken Premier 2005. I learned after the fact that Intuit has taken over the CheckFree feature under the same QuickenBillPay name. There are two tech support areas now--one for the BillPay service and another for the Quicken software.
First, I had a problem "transitioning" to the new service. It seems the "old server", "new server" and Quicken itself were out of synch with regard to the bank account information. The software gave error messages warning not to use Quicken for bill payment until the problem was resolved. The first person in BillPay tech support was unable to help me and referred the problem to Quicken tech support. A week passed and they never called. I was told to pay bills directly through the web in the meantime. I was able to login and schedule two time-critical payments. After receiving no response, I called and went through the whole process again. This time I was required to change the bank account information in Quicken to agree with the account information in BillPay. There were two discrepancies: one account with a number that I didn't recognize and an obsolete routing number that was ten years old. The invalid account number was deleted and I was required to change the routing number in Quicken. This time the "transition" worked. However, I was told that payments might be routed incorrectly because of the obsolete routing number and that I should go to the web and correct the routing number. To do this I was told to add the account as new with the corrected routing number and and delete the old account. It turns out this canceled all of my pending and repeating payments, including the time-critical ones. Not only that, the software created a new file of transactions and now some account information is in one file and some in another and they can't be merged.
I find this is very typical of Intuit's software. It's never properly tested and the alleged new features are worthless to me. The user interface changes each time and features that should be routine require relearning and sometimes no longer work.
Don't upgrade to 2005 - even if someone gives it to you! September 24, 2004 79 out of 81 found this review helpful
If you have the 2003 Deluxe version stick with it. It is the last Intuit version worth using. I regret upgrading to 2005.
When installing Quicken 2005, it removes Quicken 2004 from your system, converts your data and you will not be able to go back. If you do decide to upgrade, make sure you make a backup - you will want it.
(...) Intuit's claimed benefits for Premium are misleading - nothing of particular value is offered.
The "over 100 enhancements" they claim to have made to 2005 are nebulous and difficult to find. Subjective as well.
I am a professional financial advisor and have helped people for years with their use of Quicken. Out of concern, I persisted and actually manged to get through to a manager in product development on the telephone. She was surprised I got through- and she was too busy to talk with me as she was getting ready to leave for the weekend.
I have several sugestions for upgrading the product and expanding their market- but since they don't matter to Intuit- no need to bore you with the details. You would never see them anyway.
The qif problem is real. They are pitting their customers against the finance industry. It doesn't look like a work around is in the near offing. I looked at Money several years ago and thought it was way below the quality of Quicken. I haven't been back since but have now re-thought. Quicken should talk to the Work Perfect people about competing with Microsoft- uh I mean Word What or something like that? Let's see - they didn't listen to their customers either - then of course there was Lotus 123 - but I don't remember what that was for......
This release has prompted me to switch to Microsoft Money! September 21, 2004 62 out of 67 found this review helpful
Intuit has removed the ability to import QIF files (for most types of accounts, i.e. checking, savings...) with the release of Quicken 2005. My financial institution only supports downloading transactions in .QIF of microsoft Money .OFX files. This is infuriating! Quicken 2005 is now useless to me. It's been a long time since I've been this frustrated with a piece of software. I'm switching to Microsoft Money immediately.
A Real Quicken Upgrade.......PLEASE!!!!! September 18, 2004 88 out of 100 found this review helpful
A Real Quicken Upgrade.......PLEASE!!!!! (3 stars - I like Quicken but last few upgrades are not moving us along)
Year after year I grow more disappointed with the upgrades for Quicken. I am a long time user of Quicken and over the last 2-3 years have also started to use MS Money. I use Quicken to do the rock n roll accounting and Money for their great Life Planner and Budget features.
Over the years I have suggested many improvements including multi-currency support (this is an interesting story of playing one against the other when Intuit was slow to respond I e-mailed the idea to the Money folks as well with cc to Intuit... I can't say that it was my mail that did it but the next versions had multi-currency support - Money still needs work in that area though). That story brings me to the central point - Intuit is loosing focus on what customers really need. The upgrades have become largely cosmetic and frankly a way for re-selling the same product to existing customers. Intuit has forgotten its roots in the simple customer needs that Scott Cook founded the company on.
Savings and Expense Control NOT just Investing. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Lately I have found that while Quicken has done very well on the Investment Tracking features of the program the very critical area of saving and expense planning is sadly under studied.
From my list of wanted product features written to Intuit over the years are things that will really help the end user like;
1. An open user forum for the discussion of product improvement ideas so that the things customers really want get aired and hopefully done. Can anybody really talk to anyone at Intuit? They almost seem to practice keeping their distance and being aloof.
2. A Shopping Planner - All of us must shop (groceries, clothes etc) and it is in this area where users can plan to save on some expenses. A good shopping planner would allow for the easy creation of shopping lists, record item prices from different stores so was to prepare estimates of costs for shopping list and track price movements, identify stores that manage their prices better, track real consumer inflation for the good we really buy, etc.
3. Utility Accounts (Electricity, Water, Gas, Phone etc) - In paying for our utilities we need to track how much is consumed along with the expense (the KWH, Gallons, Minutes etc). Tracking and graphing utility bill items will help to keep the use mindful of consumption patterns and help identify places to save again. This new class of account should be added. -(Yes, I already use the Quicken Home & Business and it does not have the capacity to capture units of items consumed in a bill. It can do it in an Invoice for items sold however which means that it is possible).
4. Budgeting - The only way to say it. The budgeting feature in Quicken is not as easy to use as the one in Money. Period. It needs a re-think!
5. Life Planning (Retirement, College etc) - Money just blows quicken away in this area! The differences are dramatic. The feature in Money is just about excellent though it could be improved in a few areas but Quicken's offering here is vastly inferior. Fix the thing! - The Life Planner should be multi-currency also. It does not support this now. - (Hint: you can download the MS Money 60 day trial for free and see what it can do)
6. Savings and Investment Accounts - Quicken needs to be able to calculate expected interest income in Accounts based on cash balances, Interest rate, period and balances and to deduct taxes based and other charges on the interest income.
These are some of the ideas that would motivate me to go for Quicken 2006!
Barely average -- just like MS Money September 17, 2004 20 out of 22 found this review helpful
This market segment needs a good program. Quicken used to be a good program (relative to competition) about 5 yrs ago. They had good interface, etc. The interface of the current version is too busy and not easy on the eye. MS Money is far better on this regard (subjective opinion) and has better graphs also in life planner. If you are new to this type of software, Money is easier to learn, but not by much (based on the 60day free trial of Money). Now, Money has a new version -- do not know if it is a big improvement.
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