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| Adobe Premiere Elements 4 [OLD VERSION] | ![Adobe Premiere Elements 4 [OLD VERSION]](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/514004mQS4L._SL160_.jpg)
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Category: Software
List Price: $99.99
Buy New: $41.99
You Save: $58.00 (58%)
New (12) Used (3) from $41.99
Avg. Customer Rating:  80 reviews
Sales Rank: 566
Format: Dvd-rom
Platforms: Windows Vista, Windows Xp
Media: DVD-ROM
Shipping Weight (lbs): 0.8
Dimensions (in): 7.6 x 5.3 x 1.3
MPN: 25530473
Model: 25530473
UPC: 883919136127
EAN: 0883919136127
ASIN: B000UK6OUK
Release Date: October 5, 2007
Availability: Usually ships in 1-2 business days
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 Bugy, re-Alphaquality Software. Should have never been released with many bugs February 24, 2008
4 out of 6 found this review helpful
I downloaded to test to buy since I was looking for a good re-encoder for AVI files. Adobe has a good re-encoder. It works. But I dicovered I have better conrol converting AVI to WMV using free Microsoft Media Encoder. As for Video editing, I wished the product would be more stable. It keeps crashing with programmer's exception/bug messages. User Interface is confusing. A simple task of adding a title or overlay title is a major task. Adobe is trying to merge Apple Product line with Windows product line: the User Interface attempts to like Apple's User Interface. This means if you are used to Windows, the hybrid (neitherApple nor Windows)interface becomes extremely confusing: you save some thing but no idea where it was saved. Need to navigate backwards to find a location etc. It is puzzling to me how Adobe with such reputation puts such a poor quality bugy sofware with unnecessarily confusing and complicated user interface. Why don't they test it themselves before releasing the product? Download for a test drive and make your own call. I made my decision, unless I see a serious effort by Adobe to fix the product, I am not buying it now and uninstalling the product from my system:
Using Vista 64, 2 G RAM, Dual Core AMD
 Adobe Premium Elements 4 February 23, 2008
3 out of 4 found this review helpful
Have used last three versions of this product and it's not perfect, but for the money it's got to be one of best if not the best. Have used many other including Sony. This interface is very easy to learn and works well, does a real nice job creating those "home movies". You do need some PC horsepower to run this or any decent editor as the file size is very large and lots of effort is required to edit. If just starting i would suggest MS Movie Maker (comes free with MS OS)and see if you want to do more sohisicated editing. Gave it a try and do check the Adode forum for great advice.
Buy a book! February 23, 2008
4 out of 5 found this review helpful
Its a good product, but you will need a book to go with it. The interface is not very intuitive to me. I ended up buying "Premiere Elements In A Snap". This is a good beginner/intermediate book and I am now able to do lots of good video.
Suprised by the low scores.... February 23, 2008
2 out of 5 found this review helpful
I was completely shocked to see the reviews. I've been using this program for a week and it has worked very well. Very easy to use, does exactly waht it is supposed to. I've not yet got into HD video. I'm converting DV-AVI to DVD and the like. I was using Ulead VideoStudio 11 and it had some bugs, namely blowing up every time I tried to scene detect. I've got nothing but good things to say about Premiere Elements 4.
How can a company like Adobe release something this bad? February 22, 2008
18 out of 20 found this review helpful
I'd give it zero stars if one could choose that.
The product is not worth the money or the frustration. It is very `buggy' and nearly unsupported. When using standard definition video, it is somewhat stable but still prone to crashing. So, much so that after nearly every operation, one will become a habitual clicker of "Save" because without developing that habit, a lot of work is lost.
Just to be clear, my machine meets the standards on the box for HD video. To rule out issues with installed software and such as their useless Technical Support documents will blame, after having a lot of problems, I took a blank hard drive, loaded XP (to avoid known issues with Vista), all the XP updates and then Adobe Premier. I then started to create a 15 minute movie from AVI files created by converting MOV file with the codecs found only after the XP and PE 4.0 installations.. All the errors occurred here as well. I had to use AVI files because the software crashed consistently when using MOV files (Quicktime files, and no matter what it says on the box about support for them, it is not really true).
The problems get far worse and more frequent when using HD sources of 720i or more. When using HD video the software will crash often with projects greater than 10 to 15 minutes. The crashes can be very frequent and more so when editing titles.
Playback is also problematic and has obvious `memory leaks, because when run too long or too often, the playback will freeze the video and sound will continue. This makes one wonder how much testing was done prior to release of the product since it is obvious that no memory testing could have been done of this would have been found.
The use of various video formats rely on codecs that Adobe does not supply nor does it maintain total compatibility with them. Even something as common as Quicktime (MOV files), which Adobe does not support without a download of the Quicktime software from Apple, is problematic causing crashes when rendering a project or attempting to "Share" (output to DVD or other format). All of the files that were used in project that crash in PE 4, play fine in Quicktime itself. So, they need to be converted, usually to AVI but the code does not link to the Quicktime DLL correctly and crashes.
Another odd thing is that one of their support documents will tell you that if you have problems, to "Share" your project video as DVD AVI. For HD, one would assume this means DVD AVI Widescreen, the most obvious choice. However, this does not result in a full HD AVI, in fact is rendered at only 720 X 480, and actually saved in 4:3 but played back in !6:9. There are no option to change the settings for DVD AVI. You will loose the whole reason fro using HD, resolution.
The HD "capabilities" of the software are not really there, but just added on top of some old C++ code from prior version and it does not work.
Examples of common other failures that Adobe does not address on their web site nor acknowledge follow.
Premier Elements errors when opening some projects after creating all graphic views in the TimeLine, and this while Task Manager does not show any spike or near limit use of memory or page file:
"Adobe Premier Elements is running low on system memory. Please save your project and process with caution."
How Premier is making this determination is beyond me but what is obvious is that it is the first indicator that even their software engineers knew it was about to crash and did this so often, they needed to warn you of the impending doom created by their poorly written code. What is is really saying is, "the code is a bit lost right now and because we've no error handling in the code, it will soon crash but please don't be upset, we warned you!"
An occasional crash when saving a project:
AppName: adobe premiere elements.exe AppVer: 4.0.0.0 ModName: kernel32.dll
ModVer: 5.1.2600.2180 Offset: 0001eb33
A common crash when editing titles. I get this one every 15 to 30 minutes and sometimes after editing titles 3 or for times no matter how much time has passed. Could be just a few minutes.
AppName: adobe premiere elements.exe AppVer: 4.0.0.0 ModName: medialayer.dll
ModVer: 4.0.0.0 Offset: 0033bfb8
There are also C++ runtime errors, indicating also that a lot of the code is legacy cove from MS Visual C++ and even way back then they did not include any error checking or handlers in their code!
You'll get no place with this and if you read their forms and other multimedia forums, you'll find these errors are very common.
Avoid this product.
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